[INUG-Users] ISM installation with Omnibus 7.3

Fri Feb 19 15:49:49 EST 2010

Beyond the ping probe Netcool doesn't have a *simple* poller. The
architecture of Omnibus make this difficult without plugging in at the probe
level. It is one of the blind areas. Another, cheaper poller I've seen
plugged into Netcool is Cacti but I do not know if it goes above basic
protocols.

-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces at netcoolusers.org [mailto:users-bounces at netcoolusers.org]
On Behalf Of Schernau, Ed D
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 10:40 AM
To: users at netcoolusers.org
Subject: Re: [INUG-Users] ISM installation with Omnibus 7.3

It's Windows, and cheesy, but check out ActiveXperts.  $800 for an
enterprise license and it polls HTTP(s), RADIUS, LDAP, DNS, SMTP, etc.
It can send traps on failures.  I'm seriously considering migrating us
to it, to avoid IBM licensing, hassle, etc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: users-bounces at netcoolusers.org [mailto:users-
> bounces at netcoolusers.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Steinberger
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:37 AM
> To: users at netcoolusers.org
> Subject: Re: [INUG-Users] ISM installation with Omnibus 7.3
> 
> To be fair, I should add that it probably depends on when you
purchased
> Netcool. If you're an old Micromuse customer, ITCAM, ITM, TDW and any
> other product in between is new - thus will require different care and
> feeding. If you're a IBM customer, there's probably a good chance you
> already have ITM, or were sold it when you purchased Netcool.
> 
> In the end, ITCAM might be an easy fit for you as an IBM customer, but
> a nightmare for a legacy Micromuse customer. Personally, I'm happily
> using ISM2.4, and will continue to do so until I find an open source
> product that can do what ISM2.4 can do without the bloat of ITM.
> 
> Jacob
> 
> Quoting Jacob Steinberger <trefalgar at realitybytes.net>:
> 
> > It's likely, but it obviously depends on the hardware and load. When
> > you look at the last release of the ISMs, you could install 1 or 10
> > ISMs on a single server, each taking maybe 8 megs of ram and run
> > happily.
> >
> > When you look at the ITCAM product line, you have the following
> requirements:
> >
> > ITCAM
> > ITM
> > TDW
> > EIF Probe (to send alarms from ITM to the object server)
> >
> > I could swear there's a 5th product, but it's coming to mind. I
> haven't
> > used ITM, so it's likely the other product could be under that
> massive
> > umbrella. When I first started looking into this, people didn't
> > understand how to sell it or how to support it because it was such a
> > cluster of products being mashed together.
> >
> > I think that's changed, since it's been a year, but your experience
> is
> > more important than mine ;)
> >
> > Jacob
> >
> >
> > Quoting David Distel <ddistel at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Jacob,
> >>
> >> My organization has ITCAM for Transactions on the "roadmap" within
> the next
> >> few months. I was informed that ITCAM was basically "... just
> another agent
> >> ...". We are looking at synthetic transactions, URL/Website
response
> time
> >> monitoring, and application monitoring.
> >>
> >> So, you are suggesting that ITCAM function should or needs to be on
> a
> >> separate server ?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Jacob Steinberger <
> >> trefalgar at realitybytes.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Don also left out that the transition to ITCAM took a simple
> product that
> >>> had large value add into a monster of a product that takes 5
> individual
> >>> product installations to get it running.
> >>>
> >>> I hope you have a spare extra server, you'll need it.
> >>>
> >>> Jacob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Don Wildman <WILDMAN at uk.ibm.com>:
> >>>
> >>> V7.3 uses the new Tivoli installer, It does not provide the older
> install
> >>>> capability.
> >>>>
> >>>> ISMs are now known as ITCAM for Transactions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don Wildman
> >>>> World Wide Product Manager ** Tivoli Event Management **
> >>>>
> >>>> users-bounces at netcoolusers.org wrote on 19/02/2010 13:45:30:
> >>>>
> >>>> [image removed]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Re: [INUG-Users] ISM installation with Omnibus 7.3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rohith G
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> users
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 19/02/2010 13:45
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent by:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> users-bounces at netcoolusers.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please respond to users
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes. Its possible to install in Omnibus 7.2 .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But in the client environment we are going to use Omnibus 7.3
and
> have
> >>>>>
> >>>> to
> >>>>
> >>>>> install ISM on that server. So any ways ? I mean any latest
> version of
> >>>>>
> >>>> ISM
> >>>>
> >>>>> is there for Omnibus V7.3?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Schernau, Ed D <
> >>>>> edward.schernau at rbscitizens.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Install Omnibus 7.2.1 instead ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> > From: users-bounces at netcoolusers.org [mailto:users-
> >>>>>> > bounces at netcoolusers.org] On Behalf Of Rohith G
> >>>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:24 AM
> >>>>>> > To: users
> >>>>>> > Subject: [INUG-Users] ISM installation with Omnibus 7.3
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Hi Netcoolers.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Which command is being used in Omnibus 7.3 instead of
> "ncisetup" in
> >>>>>> > previous version. Because i am tryn to install ISM V2.4 in
> Omnibus
> >>>>>> 7.3.
> >>>>>> > The INSTALL script is using ncisetup executable for the
> Installation
> >>>>>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>>>>> > Any idea of how to procees on this ?
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Regards,
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Rohith G
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