[INUG-Users] SCOM connector thoughts

Wed Jun 24 04:22:45 EDT 2009

If managing an EMS (e.g. SCOM) with trapd you need as others have pointed 
out an EMS Tier 3 or 5 license per instance of the managed EMS.

If collecting from multiple devices then you need Tier 1 licenses for 
every device from which you are collecting traps.   Use of some form of 
consolidation server that does not provide EMS capability requires the 
counting of all devices forwarding via that consolidation point.

It is many years since trapd was licensed by probe instance though there 
may still be some customers running on old contracts.

-hth-

Don Wildman 
World Wide Product Manager ** Event Management ** +44 207 021 8144

users-bounces at netcoolusers.org wrote on 24/06/2009 02:49:56:

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> Re: [INUG-Users] SCOM connector thoughts
> 
> Gothmolly 
> 
> to:
> 
> users
> 
> 24/06/2009 02:50
> 
> Sent by:
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> users-bounces at netcoolusers.org
> 
> Please respond to users
> 
> My point was that if you're using the SCOM probe, you don't need
> anything else, BUT, since it sucks, and most places run the mttrapd
> probe, and probably have 1 spare license, you can integrate it THAT
> way, and spend nothing.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Heiko
> Hünnefeld<Heiko.Huennefeld at serimaconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree with Michael. Since SCOM is integrated into Netcool somehow, 
you 
> will need 1 SNMP EMS, aka Tier-5 FCT, aka Tier-3 PPA Probe license.
> > But luckily you will hardly find a handful of IBM Sales reps that 
really 
> know this, so in the end you might as well license 1 IP for 
Tier-1-Probes and 
> get away with it.
> >
> > And, just to confirm Paul. Setting up the SCOM probe REALLY sucks!
> > After your read all the documentation, the READMEs and googled for a 
> solution, you will end up raising a PMR plus a MS case.
> > After some hard time explaining the basics to L1 you eventually end up 
at L3
> - there is the one guy that knows exactly what to do.
> > That will help. Ask for Pat...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Heiko
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: users-bounces at netcoolusers.org [
mailto:users-bounces at netcoolusers.org]
> On Behalf Of Gothmolly
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:56 AM
> > To: users at netcoolusers.org
> > Subject: Re: [INUG-Users] SCOM connector thoughts
> >
> > If you're sending traps to the mttrapd probe, it goes by # IPs sending
> > traps.   I'm not sure how the SCOM probe is licensed, but we (most 
shops??)
> > have the mttrapd probe already, so 1 extra IP is probably free given 
the
> > existing spend.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Michael Troitzsch 
<M.Troitzsch at dicos.de>wrote:
> >
> >> "and only burn 1 IP address worth of trap probe licensing."
> >>
> >> Nope.
> >> To my understanding, this will need a license for the "SNMP-EMS" 
Probe -
> >> priced totally different as the Tier-1-SNMP-Probe.
> >> May be wrong - but that's what we've been told.
> >>
> >> Otherwise, I tend to agree especially to the first 2 words ... about
> >> setting the beast up.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Michael Troitzsch
> >>
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> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: users-bounces at netcoolusers.org [
mailto:users-bounces at netcoolusers.org]
> >> Im Auftrag von Gothmolly
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2009 19:33
> >> An: users at netcoolusers.org
> >> Betreff: Re: [INUG-Users] SCOM connector thoughts
> >>
> >> It sucks.  Java.  nco_p_nonnative.  SQL hackery to "update" SCOM 
events via
> >> the Netcool client.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
http://blogcastrepository.com/blogs/francoisd/archive/2009/01/27/scom-2007-

> how-to-generate-snmp-notifications.aspx
> >>
> >> This will get you up and running in a matter of minutes, and only 
burn 1 IP
> >> address worth of trap probe licensing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:19 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON 
<pwilliamson at mtb.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > We have just purchased the probe/gateway for connection between MS 
System
> >> > Center Operations Manager and Netcool (currently running 7.0.6).
> >> >
> >> > I am going to be the admin for SCOM, as I am for Netcool.  Any 
hints,
> >> tips
> >> > or tricks with using the gateway?  I've read the documentation, and 
you
> >> know
> >> > how that goes...just looking for any undocumented features or hints 
to
> >> get
> >> > it running - like run it under PA or monitor the process because it 
is
> >> > slightly unstable (doubt it, but you never know)...
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> > Paul
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